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Sunday, June 8th 2008, 7:59pm

DM9 - Rulebreaks

Since there will be rulebreaks and we have to sort them out, this is the place to go!

If your team encountered a rulebreak, say:
creepskipping/backdooring, fissure/sprout abuse
you came to the right place.

Post the replay and if possible screenshots in this thread, explain the situation and give us the time this incident took place.

As an example:

Your team encountered a fissure block.

Hi, we Team X played against Team Y, Team Y blocked the bottom entrance to their base with fissure at minute 53.

"Uploaded replay" + "Uploaded screenshot/s"

Definitely write your teams name and the opponents name in here, so that we can work on it properly.

Everything else that has nothing to do with the rulebreaks will be deleted and could also result in penalty points, depending on what the post is about, also, the thread is no place for discussion, if you read that somebody posted a rulebreak of your team you don't argue about it, you just let us admins decide if it was a rulebreak or not.

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buddino

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Sunday, June 8th 2008, 9:14pm

1. round DM9 group 13 DBZ VS WAG

the match turned to be a win for WAG against us..
but Wag-firstblood (link to DL account http://www.dota-league.com/?section=profile&id=72922 played in the game against us, as seen in the replay and confirmed by himself in the screenshot.....

therefore we claim that they have used an illegal player and hope for the appropriate actions taken against it...
therefore we Claim the win in the group 13 match between "de brændende zebraer" and "We are gankers", for use of 99pp banned player.

best regards.

Buddino

Fixed, you got the win
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Monday, June 9th 2008, 12:54am

1. round Team DOSE BetaSquad vs Time 2 Die

At this game T2D needed a lot of time to show up, it was np, we waited that time...
But the point is, they added fast some new Accounts for this game, they didn´t enter/write the battle.net Accounts in the profile so they used "illegal" Accounts/Player for this Game...
They didnt say anything to us for this Players...
They used ZAPT.OZ and
olivochka...

Here the Screens:

http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080608/3eFks2gCyo.jpg
http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/n54016e198.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image…dprofileop7.jpg

ty KlouSy

Agreed, match results changed
ReageN: Dota-League has decided to ban Lycanthrope because they think he's too good, do you agree?

Rush3D|NS: I don´t think this was the correct choice, if you think this hero is imbalanced - we should really see him in action, or we´ll never understand for sure, how imba he is or not. Yeah he got buffed, but I still don´t think he is THAT good.

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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 2:37pm

well, i admit it's a kind of mistake to not ask whether i could play or not before but the rule about that was added just before the begining of DM9 and i watched rules a long time ago so didnt noticed it. but as i am reading again this topic it's writen :

If your team encountered a rulebreak, say:
creepskipping/backdooring, fissure/sprout abuse
you came to the right place.

i don't see the link between this and wag-dbz case .

[Thas]: We took the right action and this thread is not for discussion. It is a rulebreak and thats what this thread is for.

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Thursday, June 12th 2008, 11:24am

fail result or need of clarification?

Hello

In this link DM9 - Round 2 - Results & Replays
you will see that i claimed the win of round two for clan DBZ vs. Clan Sw0t because they used 2 x guinsoo and 1 x Euls...
and my inquiry got accepted by an admin with this word Accepted, and further down on the page the inquiry our opponent made was denied with this message: It dont matter, you acted against the rules and are now disqualified!...
Then when i looked at the grid this morning they have advanced and we are out ofthe tournament, which would be fine if it werent for the fact that the admins themselves made it clear that we were through due to SW0ts rulebreak...

hoping for some clarification...

Buddino...
De Brændende Zebraere


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Thursday, June 12th 2008, 9:46pm

Admin did wrong def win ...

Group 7 round 2 (False results) Wtg vs TG


We claim def win cuz enemy didnt show up (look at screens there is def time + offline enemy) ADMIN ACCEPTED ... LOL and enemy come to 30 min late def time and claim us as didnt show up ... AND ADMIN ACCEPTED TOO >.< , Plz look at both screens and make RIGHT default win ... i was waited enemy at they's IRC cannel 3 HOURS BEFORE DEF TIME THEY DIDNT COME till DEF TIME AND HOW THE F><K WE LOSE ... sorry just a bit angry ;P

Best regards , Sh1n1ng

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Wednesday, June 18th 2008, 10:39pm

STVZ vs xLc Rule Break

3.3 Maximum of one Necronomicon per team.



Team excello.dota broke the rules and purchased 2 Necronomicons (against potm ulti) (manaburn pwns Skeleton King etc.)

Check the replay. At minute 24 the first Necronomicons was ready and several minutes later (minute 36 ) the second was created by them.

That was pretty unfair for us and they didnt stick to the rules.

Thats why i dont know if they deserve this win, when they abuse the rules.

Best Regards. cu.


Update: It is just poor that no single admin took care about that game. Useless to organisate such Tournaments if more famous teams are somehow taken as default winner even if they broke the rules.
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Sunday, June 22nd 2008, 7:26pm

rulebreak in the DM9 game: TilT vs. w4sp

First we (clan TilT) hosted because of winning the coin flip. after complainings about laggs/spikes etc., we agreed to play on their host.
there we got the problem that directly after saving the game one of our players disconnected. so a save was like a kick for our player. after saving 3 reloads they denied a reload and forced us to play with only 4 or leave. they strictly denied that it was a bug by the latency reducing programs and weren't willing to play with last save game (~15seconds passed), even after an admin (omg_cheeze_lazer) told us to rehost. proof in attachment.

we claim defaultwin, because our enemy (w4sp) refuses to reload.
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Sunday, June 22nd 2008, 9:13pm

rulebreak in the DM9 game: TilT vs. w4sp

First we (clan TilT) hosted because of winning the coin flip. after complainings about laggs/spikes etc., we agreed to play on their host.
there we got the problem that directly after saving the game one of our players disconnected. so a save was like a kick for our player. after saving 3 reloads they denied a reload and forced us to play with only 4 or leave. they strictly denied that it was a bug by the latency reducing programs and weren't willing to play with last save game (~15seconds passed), even after an admin (omg_cheeze_lazer) told us to rehost. proof in attachment.

we claim defaultwin, because our enemy (w4sp) refuses to reload.


learn to read rules please, i copy it for you...
- Remakes
2.8 There is a limit of two remakes per team for each game. In case both teams agree you can of course do more.

-> You had your 2 remakes and we did not like to waste more time with rehosting after every save. The rule is clear.

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Sunday, June 22nd 2008, 9:48pm

doom well same for you. we havent got a remake we only got reloads and for savegames and reloads there exist other rules:
2.13 When there are problems with the game (no saves or the host disconnects at 55 minutes and the last save was at 15 minutes, etc.) you must contact a Tournament Admin who will decide what happens.

so we asked cheez_lazor and he said reload
That's mankind for you. If you set up a switch in a distant cave in an empty desert with a sign on it reading "End of the World Switch. DO NOT TOUCH!", the paint wouldn't even have the time to dry.

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Monday, June 23rd 2008, 7:18pm

Rules are on our Side (Clan TilT).

- Remakes
2.8 There is a limit of two remakes per team for each game. In case both teams agree you can of course do more.
2.8a The game cannot be remade after the first 5 minutes have passed and/or one player`s hero has been killed by the enemy team.
...etc...

It is really clear that we have not the case of a Remake (like Slarti also said).

And now the Rule for our Game:

- Savegames
2.11 You should save the game every 15 minutes or after major events (big teamfights, roshan kills, barracks kills, etc.). Both teams are responsible for saving the game. You should always announce a save with a countdown and/or a pause. Save often!
2.12 When a player disconnects the team can force a reload from the last save only if the other team isn`t ahead by 5 points since the last save. Hero kills are 1 point, tower kills 2 and barracks 3. You may deviate from this is if the other team agrees.

Our Player always have had the save-file when he dropped, so its not really a big thing or disadvantage to reload! Clan W4sp didn`t want to continue the game, so we claim Def-Win!

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Tuesday, June 24th 2008, 7:52pm

This is NOT a discussion thread. Here you state the rulebrake and wait. If you DON'T like our oppinion, then you contact that admin via IRC but dont whine here!
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